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34: Rafe Kelley on Parkour, Nature, Play, and Evolution



Rafe Kelley is a movement teacher, one of the top parkour coaches in the world, creator of the Evolve Move Play method; we talked about the origins of parkour, fear of injury, what is “fun”, the monkey dance, lifting heavy rocks for building grips, arguing with people on the internet, masculine and feminine virtues, theory of evolution, getting punched in the face, the future, his dad, SunRay Kelley’s philosophy on architecture and life, etc.

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Excerpt on YouTube: Parkour and Fear

Full Audio of Interview on YouTube


Rafe on the importance of having fun in practice:

“In the fitness world, there’s less emphasis on fun. It’s more about guns and abs. We try to shame people about their bodies and motivate them through asthetics. That works for some people. But for most people that are able to maintain their health and fitness through life are people that find something that the love in movement. Whether it’s rock climbing or surfing or skiing or parkour or jiu jitsu. There’s something that appeals to their sense of play.”

Rafe on the importance of getting out and experiencing the world:

“If you’ve never been in a fist fight, you’ll be extremely frightened in a confrontation. So I think giving people an outlet to express these fears is an important part of play. It’s rough housing that sometimes turns into little scuffles. We are too quick to break these up, when actually they are often an important part of the growing process.”



32: Ido Portal on Movement, Improvisation, Practice, and Cultivating the Weird



Ido Portal is a movement artist, researcher, and teacher; we talked about specialization, his journey in becoming a movement generalist, the sacrifice of specialists, improvisation, coaching, criticism, dealing with complainers, difference of mentality in different countries, perfect practice, Marcelo Garcia, learning new things versus perfecting old things, building work capacity, mentor/desciple relationshiop,  moving alone and in a community, moving through injury, antifragile, Nassim Nicholas Taleb, paleo diet, technology, Tom Waits, Charles Bukowski, cultivating the weird, etc.

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YouTube Clip: Price of Specialization

YouTube Clip: Improvisation in Movement


Ido on his goal of becoming a movement teacher:

“If it’s impossible, it’s a good goal to have.”

Ido Portal on improvisation in life and in movement:

“Improvisation is the human condition. You’re born. You die. And in-between you improvise.”

Opening statement of Ido’s long discussion of “perfect practice”:

“Repetition is the mother of skill.”


Full Audio of Interview on YouTube

Roll the Dice by Charles Bukowski

if you’re going to try,
go all the way.
otherwise, don’t even start.

this could mean losing girlfriends,
wives, relatives, jobs and
maybe your mind.

it could mean not eating for 3 or 4 days.
it could mean freezing on a
park bench.
it could mean jail,
it could mean derision,
it could mean mockery,
isolation is the gift,
all the others are a test
of your endurance,
of how much you really want to
do it.
and you’ll do it
despite rejection and the worst odds
and it will be better than
anything else
you can imagine.

if you’re going to try,
go all the way.
there is no other feeling like that.
you will be alone with the gods
and the nights will flame with fire.

you will ride life
straight to perfect laughter,
it’s the only good fight there is.